So I went to see Noggin the Nog
May. 8th, 2011 09:24 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
essayelNo really. Thor might have had all the glitzy Hollywood trappings but that was basically it. It even began the same way.
YES, see, just like Noggin and I loved that Branagh let Sir Ant do it in his Welsh accent.
I've seen quite a bit of criticism of Thor and it's all perfectly justified. If I had been able to I would have made notes at the bits that made me sigh, giggle, groan or growl. The obvious thing was the cowboys'n'indians division between the Asgardians and the Jotuns, but the general attitude to females irritated me too. We had 4, apart from the 'OMG save the women and children' fodder in the town. There was Thor's mum, Thor's love interest, his spunky female friend who he had allowed in the treehouse and Darcy, who presumably was there to make mention of things like iPods and Facebook and delight the historians in 50 years time. I'm guessing we were lucky to have those and it was noticeable that all of them had the requisite broad shouldered, narrow hipped profile that takes away a lot of the troubling femaleness.
Odin was a bit of a dick wasn't he? And he'd aged badly. Presumably the 'Odin sleep' was going to let him do a DW style regeneration so why - if there had been peace for x-number of years, allowing both the sprogs to mature, hadn't he taken the opportunity to do it. Possibly because he had an ADHD godling rampaging around the place. But more likely because he was scared that the Missis would jump the fence again. We all know from the sagas how she got that necklace by sleeping with Leofni and I think that the screenwriters missed a big trick there.
Are you as bored as I am with the convention in Hollywood that people who think are bad? Of the two I would much sooner have someone who thinks through a problem on my side then someone who just hits it with a hammer. "See the hill, take the hill" is a valid problem solving technique under some circumstances. But if you haven't actually GOT to take a hill, sometimes it's easier, better, less costly in terms of life and limb, to go round it. Of course this intellect=evil doesn't apply to unfeasibly young physics PhD holders, as long as they are blonde and pretty. Scientists are okay, but they have to be careful not to use big words. A good vocabulary also =evil in the terms of the summer blockbuster.
Aaand there was other stuff too but my other half has got up now and is making gardening noises so I better go and help - just now.
Having bitched a bit I must put up my hands to the things I liked:
Chris Hemsworth's muscles and that the direction made him look both a dick and a dork and allowed us not to take him too seriously.
The CGI was pretty.
Everything about Tom Hiddlestone but I wish they'd let him keep his curly red hair.
My total ignorance of the comics that allowed me to snort and snigger over things I was probably supposed to take seriously. Like The Warriors Three? *facepalm* Light relief painted with a BIG brush.
The way 80% of the audience went 'Ewwwwwwwwww' when the girl kissed the hero [there were only 4 women in the audience, the average viewer was an 11 yr old boy].
Bootstrap Bill - yay!!
Agent Coulson - I quite fancy Agent Coulson. He's brave, not unkind, and prepared to do shitty jobs if necessary as gracefully as possible.
That Loki isn't dead - well obviously not, he should be strapped naked to a rock under the Yggdrasil with the Midgarthr Serpent dripping venom into hi eyes except for the bowl held over his face by his giantess wife, apart from when she nips off to empty the bowl, or have a wee or go and have her nails done or something. Then he thrashes and screams a lot. But they couldn't do that and keep it 12A could they? Apparently there was an extra bit after the credits but I was with himself and he'll barely stay in his seat for the last lines of the film, he's so anxious to get away from the rest of the audience. So I did a google for it this morning to find out what happened and am glad that the Trickster will probably be back in another film. It's nice to see Brit actors in work.
So, yes, I enjoyed it despite it's faults but I'm guessing that in 30 years time when I'm in a nursing home somewhere, sitting in my own pee and wondering what day it is, it will be Oliver Postgate and paper cut out Noggin I remember rather than the all singing, all dancing Hollywood version.
YES, see, just like Noggin and I loved that Branagh let Sir Ant do it in his Welsh accent.
I've seen quite a bit of criticism of Thor and it's all perfectly justified. If I had been able to I would have made notes at the bits that made me sigh, giggle, groan or growl. The obvious thing was the cowboys'n'indians division between the Asgardians and the Jotuns, but the general attitude to females irritated me too. We had 4, apart from the 'OMG save the women and children' fodder in the town. There was Thor's mum, Thor's love interest, his spunky female friend who he had allowed in the treehouse and Darcy, who presumably was there to make mention of things like iPods and Facebook and delight the historians in 50 years time. I'm guessing we were lucky to have those and it was noticeable that all of them had the requisite broad shouldered, narrow hipped profile that takes away a lot of the troubling femaleness.
Odin was a bit of a dick wasn't he? And he'd aged badly. Presumably the 'Odin sleep' was going to let him do a DW style regeneration so why - if there had been peace for x-number of years, allowing both the sprogs to mature, hadn't he taken the opportunity to do it. Possibly because he had an ADHD godling rampaging around the place. But more likely because he was scared that the Missis would jump the fence again. We all know from the sagas how she got that necklace by sleeping with Leofni and I think that the screenwriters missed a big trick there.
Are you as bored as I am with the convention in Hollywood that people who think are bad? Of the two I would much sooner have someone who thinks through a problem on my side then someone who just hits it with a hammer. "See the hill, take the hill" is a valid problem solving technique under some circumstances. But if you haven't actually GOT to take a hill, sometimes it's easier, better, less costly in terms of life and limb, to go round it. Of course this intellect=evil doesn't apply to unfeasibly young physics PhD holders, as long as they are blonde and pretty. Scientists are okay, but they have to be careful not to use big words. A good vocabulary also =evil in the terms of the summer blockbuster.
Aaand there was other stuff too but my other half has got up now and is making gardening noises so I better go and help - just now.
Having bitched a bit I must put up my hands to the things I liked:
Chris Hemsworth's muscles and that the direction made him look both a dick and a dork and allowed us not to take him too seriously.
The CGI was pretty.
Everything about Tom Hiddlestone but I wish they'd let him keep his curly red hair.
My total ignorance of the comics that allowed me to snort and snigger over things I was probably supposed to take seriously. Like The Warriors Three? *facepalm* Light relief painted with a BIG brush.
The way 80% of the audience went 'Ewwwwwwwwww' when the girl kissed the hero [there were only 4 women in the audience, the average viewer was an 11 yr old boy].
Bootstrap Bill - yay!!
Agent Coulson - I quite fancy Agent Coulson. He's brave, not unkind, and prepared to do shitty jobs if necessary as gracefully as possible.
That Loki isn't dead - well obviously not, he should be strapped naked to a rock under the Yggdrasil with the Midgarthr Serpent dripping venom into hi eyes except for the bowl held over his face by his giantess wife, apart from when she nips off to empty the bowl, or have a wee or go and have her nails done or something. Then he thrashes and screams a lot. But they couldn't do that and keep it 12A could they? Apparently there was an extra bit after the credits but I was with himself and he'll barely stay in his seat for the last lines of the film, he's so anxious to get away from the rest of the audience. So I did a google for it this morning to find out what happened and am glad that the Trickster will probably be back in another film. It's nice to see Brit actors in work.
So, yes, I enjoyed it despite it's faults but I'm guessing that in 30 years time when I'm in a nursing home somewhere, sitting in my own pee and wondering what day it is, it will be Oliver Postgate and paper cut out Noggin I remember rather than the all singing, all dancing Hollywood version.