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essayelTwo things this morning -
One is a post on![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
brisingamen's journal re preventative measures against terrorism - very well reasoned and well expressed arguments against making everyone's life extremely unpleasant in the hope that you might involve the few who deserve it in the resulting misery.
The other is the existence of The Black List. Now this, on the face of it seems like a well intentioned attempt by some concerned people to make fic writers a little more careful about where they place their X rated (NC 17 for non-Brits) stories. Obviously, putting stories like that where small children can read them and go to Mummy demanding an explanation of buggery is not a good and responsible thing to do but I think that most of us realise this and take precautions. Most people rate their fics carefully and take pains with summaries etc to warn off readers who may be upset. There are a few who don't, of course, but even a cursory glance at the List of Infamy shows that it is a grand company of master writers, some of whom may have had a careless day.epicyclical for instance...her Trilogy is great fun to read. I've read (most of) it aloud to my daughter but it isn't nearly as good as her NC-17 stuff. camillabloom is normally very very careful about where she posts her sometimes quite startling stories (I beta for her and I know she wouldn't mind me saying that). I don't know where either posted the offending stories but I'd bet a kidney it wasn't with any intention to offend or corrupt. Honestly, I think that the Black List is doomed to failure. Prospective smut writers will bribe friends to nominate them and The Gold List will wither and die because who wants to be known as a Goodie Two-shoes?
So, bearing that in mind, here is my potential Black List fic which popped fully fledged into my mind as I drove the kids to school - "Why are you giggling, Mummy?". Cut to reduce space on friends list not from any (particular) sense of shame:
Alternative
"Oh...oh...yes...Merlin...oh," Lupin panted, as he felt his climax build. Hips thrusting wildly one last time, he threw back his head and let out his breath in one last "Gaaaahhh!" of relief.... and the full moon, well doused, waned and disappeared with a despairing boggarty squeak.
"So...," he said, turning back around and tucking his now flaccid member, back into his regulation trousers and buttoning the flap. He reached for a towel, wiped his hands, the floor and - as an afterthought - the opposite wall. The class stared at him, wide eyed and open mouthed. "So, do you all understand what you have to do?" he asked.
Harry, bless the boy, raised a tentative hand. "But sir...isn't the Riddikulus spell the one to use?"
"Yes, Harry, very good ten points to Gryffindor - but you'll soon all be proper teenagers and believe me when you're fifteen you'll be hard pressed to find any happy thoughts but you'll always be able to wank so the Climacticus is a very good alternative - and much more fun." He took a box from the cupboard and put it on the table. "Right, who's first? How about you, Neville? Just work fast and be creful of your aim. OK? Relax and enjoy yourself!"
Lupin grinned - DADA was such fun.
Well I never said it was any good.
One is a post on
brisingamen's journal re preventative measures against terrorism - very well reasoned and well expressed arguments against making everyone's life extremely unpleasant in the hope that you might involve the few who deserve it in the resulting misery. The other is the existence of The Black List. Now this, on the face of it seems like a well intentioned attempt by some concerned people to make fic writers a little more careful about where they place their X rated (NC 17 for non-Brits) stories. Obviously, putting stories like that where small children can read them and go to Mummy demanding an explanation of buggery is not a good and responsible thing to do but I think that most of us realise this and take precautions. Most people rate their fics carefully and take pains with summaries etc to warn off readers who may be upset. There are a few who don't, of course, but even a cursory glance at the List of Infamy shows that it is a grand company of master writers, some of whom may have had a careless day.
epicyclical for instance...her Trilogy is great fun to read. I've read (most of) it aloud to my daughter but it isn't nearly as good as her NC-17 stuff. camillabloom is normally very very careful about where she posts her sometimes quite startling stories (I beta for her and I know she wouldn't mind me saying that). I don't know where either posted the offending stories but I'd bet a kidney it wasn't with any intention to offend or corrupt. Honestly, I think that the Black List is doomed to failure. Prospective smut writers will bribe friends to nominate them and The Gold List will wither and die because who wants to be known as a Goodie Two-shoes? So, bearing that in mind, here is my potential Black List fic which popped fully fledged into my mind as I drove the kids to school - "Why are you giggling, Mummy?". Cut to reduce space on friends list not from any (particular) sense of shame:
Alternative
"Oh...oh...yes...Merlin...oh," Lupin panted, as he felt his climax build. Hips thrusting wildly one last time, he threw back his head and let out his breath in one last "Gaaaahhh!" of relief.... and the full moon, well doused, waned and disappeared with a despairing boggarty squeak.
"So...," he said, turning back around and tucking his now flaccid member, back into his regulation trousers and buttoning the flap. He reached for a towel, wiped his hands, the floor and - as an afterthought - the opposite wall. The class stared at him, wide eyed and open mouthed. "So, do you all understand what you have to do?" he asked.
Harry, bless the boy, raised a tentative hand. "But sir...isn't the Riddikulus spell the one to use?"
"Yes, Harry, very good ten points to Gryffindor - but you'll soon all be proper teenagers and believe me when you're fifteen you'll be hard pressed to find any happy thoughts but you'll always be able to wank so the Climacticus is a very good alternative - and much more fun." He took a box from the cupboard and put it on the table. "Right, who's first? How about you, Neville? Just work fast and be creful of your aim. OK? Relax and enjoy yourself!"
Lupin grinned - DADA was such fun.
Well I never said it was any good.
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Date: 2004-01-14 11:40 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-14 09:40 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-14 09:41 pm (UTC)The Alternative
Re: The Alternative
Date: 2004-01-14 09:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-14 12:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-14 09:45 pm (UTC)Must go across to
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Date: 2004-01-14 05:25 pm (UTC)Despite the fact that large portions of House of Ill Faith have an NC17 rating, some of the most articulate fans I have are under 18. It's for this reason that I stopped working on age-restricted sites--the 14-18 year olds are often willing to talk about the issues behind the stories and the worldbuilding instead of trying to shut me up by saying they have hard lives and all they want to do is read some fluffy smut please and would I please stop talking about thorny issues like censorship or making them confront the fact that people who commit mass murder probably don't have much respect for the statutory rape laws either?
This is not a shot at you--you're not the reason I stopped posting at the Boudoir--but I also considered when I started writing and reading fanfic and what I wrote and read, and concluded that a) I was being a big, fat hypocrite and b) the chances of my being singled out as an example by some legal eagle were very slim, considering what else is out there and the fact that everything I write does have some kind of plot and theme etc.
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Date: 2004-01-14 10:17 pm (UTC)You have fans to cater for and must therefore post where they can get at your fics. That places you in a special category. But for the majority of us it doesn't much matter where we post because we only pick up a few random readers. Under those circumstances I think I'm happier posting my fics as "R" just in case. Let's face it, the average 12 year old is perfectly capable of clicking the "Yes I am over seventeen" box and there's very little we can do about that.
Incidentally, I explained Jenny's gaffes to her and she laughed until she fell down - especially about Gollum!
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Date: 2004-01-14 10:38 pm (UTC)I really don't believe that. I mean, come on--what kind of person is going to read a fic like 'Goodbye' and think that I am saying it's a good idea to roger your mum?
The kind of person who would think that is going to be just as daft at 30 as they are at 16, and is far more likely to be out blowing up abortion clinics 'cos the Bible said so. The kind of person who does think it's a good idea to roger your mum turns up on Jerry Springer and hasn't got the brain power to read anything I've written.
But even if that were true...
What are we to do? I'll tell you what we're to do. We're to let their parents, who know them, make the decisions as to what they're permitted to read. And if their parents aren't taking care of them, I really don't see that that's our fault. Anyone who's impressionable enough to believe everything they read, see on TV, or hear on the radio needs supervision a lot more constant and personal than I am capable of providing to them.
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Date: 2004-01-14 10:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-15 12:15 am (UTC)Thanks for that masterly reading of my character.
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Date: 2004-01-15 12:20 am (UTC)The kind of person who would think that I'm advocating incest? That's you?
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Date: 2004-01-15 12:24 am (UTC)Do you seriously think I would have invited you to join LW if I thought you were stupid!
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Date: 2004-01-15 09:05 am (UTC)LOL - well evidently I am having totally misinterpreted you commentand reacted in my usual hedgehog fashion - curl up in a ball bristling and waiting for the kick. Sorry. It's January - I'm always twitchy and defensive in January. I think I must have some bear in my genes and should be deep in a cave snoring from November to March!!
As for joining LW I flattered myself that perhaps it's like a balloon...no matter how bright and bouyant it is it always needs a knot!
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Date: 2004-01-14 06:53 pm (UTC)I don't know about blacklisting, I've really quit reading any fanfic (or any fic really, stupid uni) lately :(
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Date: 2004-01-15 12:40 am (UTC)I mean, the name of the fucking thing. The "Black List." That's only one space away from 'blacklist.' And the idea of fandom McCarthyism is too fucking scary to contemplate.
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Date: 2004-01-15 10:25 am (UTC)I nearly killed my keyboard with tea,
Perhaps there will be a no keyboard
warning black list. LOL!
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Date: 2004-01-15 10:30 am (UTC)gah, Lupin really was the best DADA teacher *g*
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Date: 2004-01-15 03:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-01-15 06:33 pm (UTC)